tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post5054797393036675621..comments2023-08-15T00:32:38.669+10:00Comments on Herp De Derp: The Hunt for Unobtrusive ChatAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-70309294289121057982022-12-08T20:53:56.543+11:002022-12-08T20:53:56.543+11:00You can play every kind of card and table game va...You can play every kind of card and table game variations and stay casino games change often on the site. Players will not be disenchanted on the range of games and different features on the casino. Justspin Casino is all about ongoing deposit bonuses and free spins to get you <a href="https://bet.edu.kg/" rel="nofollow">솔카지노</a> started.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-18913523622605522432018-10-05T06:48:31.653+10:002018-10-05T06:48:31.653+10:00This blog is so stunningly outstanding. Left its r...This blog is so stunningly outstanding. Left its readers in the awe.<br /><a href="https://base-chat.locatalk.com/base-chat/base-chat-telefonnummer/" rel="nofollow">Phone Number for Base Chat in Germany</a><br />topsellar1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17396325353723606410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-40122725266624912042015-10-28T14:25:20.067+11:002015-10-28T14:25:20.067+11:00because some of the articles on this blog, I can g...because some of the articles on this blog, I can get insight about how my job. Thanks writer.<br /><a href="http://husnaherbal.com/obat-alergi-gatal-yang-berkualitas/" rel="nofollow">obat herbal alergi gatal</a><br /><a href="http://husnaherbal.com/obat-tradisional-pembesaran-prostat/" rel="nofollow">obat tradisional pembesaran prostat</a><br /><a href="http://husnaherbal.com/cara-menghilangkan-gatal-pada-kemaluan/" rel="nofollow">cara menghilangkan gatal kemaluan</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08246003061621219544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-24821240831280006732012-03-20T21:57:01.009+11:002012-03-20T21:57:01.009+11:00This is it, hopefully all those things you need ge...This is it, hopefully all those things you need get ready and we can get such a plasmoid... I don't think it would take long for it to become a must for most people using KDE.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05251132358471777908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-44431649185033028522012-02-16T00:46:54.832+11:002012-02-16T00:46:54.832+11:00Wow, I've been busy fixing bugs, implementing ...Wow, I've been busy fixing bugs, implementing the features I promised and overall getting the plasmoid to a 'usable' state. Sorry I completely forgot to respond to this.<br /><br />From what I've seen of indicators (which is mostly what I read in the first link you posted), I don't think I can make an indicator which you can directly reply from. <br /><br />But as your second Idea, if that Javascript API works, might be doable. Right now, I ditched the one plasmoid per chat option (too difficult to implement). But I'll eventually implement it, and then I could probably write something that'll add a plasmoid to the systray on an incoming conversation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-84974924924029269952012-02-16T00:35:12.157+11:002012-02-16T00:35:12.157+11:00Hello, again!
Don't know if you've spoken...Hello, again!<br /><br />Don't know if you've spoken to Aurélien or even if you've read that post I mentioned, where he shows his plasmoid indicator (again, I'm not suggesting you to use indicators, I'm pointing out that he created this plasmoid which is embeddable at notification area, so you could make contact to get some help).<br /><br />But, still, this is something else I've found, which is about desktop scripting but may ring a bell or give a trace, anyway: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting#Add_a_widget_to_systemtray<br /><br />Keep on!<br /><br />CheersJ Janzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161769249078157897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-2578614419395244482012-02-05T04:32:10.070+11:002012-02-05T04:32:10.070+11:00This is really kool idea this feature already impl...This is really kool idea this feature already implemented in Gnome-Shell and I really like to see it in KDE asap good luck and thumbs up! :)තරිදු අබේදීර::Tharindu Abeydeerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13824858367666077552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-34919746824288255462012-02-04T11:35:06.132+11:002012-02-04T11:35:06.132+11:00This is AWESOME! I'm a huge user of virtual d...This is AWESOME! I'm a huge user of virtual desktops AND activities and I STILL find this would be really useful to get a quick message out and get back to work rather than going to my chat virtual desktop in my main activity.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05429743489260948178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-2466682663627046062012-02-04T01:24:17.280+11:002012-02-04T01:24:17.280+11:00I will go easy :D. +1. Loving the concept. Keep it...I will go easy :D. +1. Loving the concept. Keep it lean. Thumbs up.Akhmad Fathonihhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779440549152931716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-16763209460434310082012-02-03T22:35:55.828+11:002012-02-03T22:35:55.828+11:00Yes! Ever since experiencing this in Gnome Shell, ...Yes! Ever since experiencing this in Gnome Shell, then hearing about the kde-telepathy project, I always dreamed/hoped for something similar. While this doesn't completely bring about the fluid, cohesive approach enjoyed in Gnome Shell's empathy integration, I think that this is a major step forward into making chats just an event and not necessarily a separate activity. When this gets refined and such hopefully I won't have to ignore the urgent chats just because I'm in the middle of typing and don't want to move away from my current work.mythushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889903906605538928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-66093784866619249582012-02-03T13:16:26.848+11:002012-02-03T13:16:26.848+11:00Well, this currently _is_ a standalone plasmoid th...Well, this currently _is_ a standalone plasmoid that mimics the appearance of the task-manager applet. <br /><br />And I was thinking of creating a separate plasmoid that only handled one contact (that the user can add separately). But I think I like your idea of 'pin to task' better because it would be easier to implement.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-24564219998179014962012-02-03T13:13:03.836+11:002012-02-03T13:13:03.836+11:00I've had dual screens for years now, but I nev...I've had dual screens for years now, but I never felt it solved this problem. I always keep browsers/pdfs and stuff I 'read' from on my left monitor and I stuff I 'write' to (word processors/IDEs) on my right. This is critical to my workflow as it means I can read documentation while I'm coding (and the likes) without switching windows.<br />Therefore, secondary tasks like chat and monitoring downloads have no place in the foreground of either monitor (IMHO).<br /><br />I tried tiling for a little bit. Not a titling WM per se, but rather I accidentally enabled some of KWin's crazy titling features. I was never a very big fan of titling - my monitors are only 22" and I like having that space for my work. The problem with using virtual desktops was that I had to manage what was where. At one point I had scripts and window rules to automatically put windows in the right places. But it just kept getting more and more complex and (I felt) starting taking me away from my goal, as my preferred method of switching windows was with the 'Present Windows' effect. <br /><br />Bottom line: Yes, your suggestion would work, but I felt this plasmoid was a little more 'complete' for my needs. And I HOPE it will be useful for more people as it takes a little less work. <br />Plus I think this would allow me to integrate with plasma activities better (eventually).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-29139309673628053292012-02-03T11:53:00.943+11:002012-02-03T11:53:00.943+11:00I tried this a while ago. But it had the problem t...I tried this a while ago. But it had the problem that if chat windows were already open in another virtual desktop, it would switch there instead of opening up. And I usually don't remember what desktop I was in when I finish replying, so I end up having to cycle through them which was a pain.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-79931722997595272172012-02-03T10:54:21.675+11:002012-02-03T10:54:21.675+11:00I like the concept. I suggest you to set a global ...I like the concept. I suggest you to set a global shortcut to minimize any window (through the system settings, global shortcuts for the Kwin component). I use a global shortcut to open Kopete chat and them minimize the chat window with the other shortcut, so I can easily switch back to my workMarcondeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15599278975503040044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-5128139968671259072012-02-03T08:57:46.087+11:002012-02-03T08:57:46.087+11:00IMHO if you want something fast that works mostly ...IMHO if you want something fast that works mostly only with the keyboard, why not try a tilling wm, like awesome and/or having a dual head setup?<br /><br />I use both of these solutions. I have a secondary screen just for secondary stuff like email client,chat(pidgin), downloads and so on, so what's really important stays on the primary screen. <br /><br />I suggested tilling wm since its typically more 'virtual desktop' oriented with all the desktops/tabs you can have. For what I saw, you could easily configure the WM to open the IM client in one desktop, and when someone talks you could just jump to it(for me for example I just press WIN+{DesktopNumber} and that's it).. you would still have a tray icon notifying you but all the windows would be in the right place. The same applyes to email clients and so on..Guilherme de Sousahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215158232403087145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-10764375794999660302012-02-03T03:55:35.085+11:002012-02-03T03:55:35.085+11:00I wonder whether we could make it just like the gm...I wonder whether we could make it just like the gmail one?<br />If there is some difficult in implement it inside the tray, why not simply put it outside the tray as a standalone plasmoid? Just like another taskbar. Dynamic changing icons number won't cause too much trouble for plasma panel, since tray, task bar already do this.<br /><br />And you could also implement something like "pin to task", to have add contacts which is not in the list but chatting to the bar.csslayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11370297698137644369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-80843727060559154052012-02-03T02:14:42.600+11:002012-02-03T02:14:42.600+11:00Well, as I said and you confirmed, from those 2 id...Well, as I said and you confirmed, from those 2 ideas, sadly only the one about having those chat icons at the notification area is doable. I'm also not sure how (but I see a few plasmoids that do, as I mentioned before and just remembered one that's not default from plasma: Message Indicator, from kubuntu -- http://agateau.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/indicators-notifications-and-co/ , which today can be at notification area) but I guess plasma devs would give a hand (or at least take a chat with Aurélien, I guess he'll help).<br /><br />Anyway, even if notifications are poorly interactive, if your plasmoids (one for each chat, as I understand from your text) sit at notification area and popup when someone says something, the effect would be quite the same.J Janzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161769249078157897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-62934907666350505352012-02-03T01:18:43.458+11:002012-02-03T01:18:43.458+11:00Cheers :)Cheers :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-9975027222358496592012-02-03T01:10:55.973+11:002012-02-03T01:10:55.973+11:00Thanks :)Thanks :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-53415945531471103222012-02-03T01:01:24.865+11:002012-02-03T01:01:24.865+11:00I replied to this 2 comments down:
http://blog.las...I replied to this 2 comments down:<br />http://blog.lasath.org/2011/12/hunt-for-unobtrusive-chat.html?showComment=1328191088551#c1170948073976113588Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-22677248399373784232012-02-03T01:00:47.311+11:002012-02-03T01:00:47.311+11:00I replied to this 2 comments down:
http://blog.las...I replied to this 2 comments down:<br />http://blog.lasath.org/2011/12/hunt-for-unobtrusive-chat.html?showComment=1328191088551#c1170948073976113588Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-21509087725546510812012-02-03T01:00:33.502+11:002012-02-03T01:00:33.502+11:00This would be wonderful. I've always loved th...This would be wonderful. I've always loved the way Google Talk works on Chromebooks, in Google+, and in Gmail, and I've always wondered why it couldn't work like that on my desktop. This looks really good and I'm looking forward to giving it a try.<br /><br />Nice work.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868269528350014620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-11709480739761135882012-02-03T00:58:08.551+11:002012-02-03T00:58:08.551+11:00I had this idea long before I saw GNOME3, I was ju...I had this idea long before I saw GNOME3, I was just slow in getting it off the ground. <br />And yes, a while ago I tried to embed it directly in a notification, but KNotfy flatly refused. Chances are that the plasma devs aren't going to add a way for me to do so anytime soon because (as Dario explained to me during the Sprint) KNotify was designed to show the user passive notifications with minimum interaction. That's why they don't get focused by default and why they don't have hotkeys or Mnemonics for the action buttons etc.<br /><br />As for what friesoft and Chema Martín said about the systray, I see merit in that too. But once again I'm not sure how to go about from a technical perspective. I don't think systray allows you to add and remove embedded widgets dynamically. IIRC it needs to be a single Plasma::PopupApplet with a special option in it's .desktop file for it to be embeddable.<br /><br />I'll try to have a chat with the plasma devs on IRC when I have time to see if they have any suggestions. But so far I don't think either of those ideas are actually doable.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-91411870852524710602012-02-03T00:44:46.677+11:002012-02-03T00:44:46.677+11:00I have been wanting this for months, partly due to...I have been wanting this for months, partly due to my love for plasma and partly because it fits beautifully with the rest of the workspace. keep up the good work :)Shantanu Tusharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14444786674806814403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4379173855599288173.post-4983770416888039492012-02-03T00:34:35.867+11:002012-02-03T00:34:35.867+11:00I don't quite understand what you mean by that...I don't quite understand what you mean by that...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906049065603197728noreply@blogger.com